Comments for Shanti's projects and adventures http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti Projects and adventures of the Bristol Channel Cutter Shanti Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:41:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on Coming soon to a theater near you! by designer handbags http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=208&cpage=1#comment-8 designer handbags Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:41:58 +0000 http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=208#comment-8 a fly with no wings would be called a bug...and you cant call panties pants LOL and for you poop guy go slit your own own throat! a fly with no wings would be called a bug…and you cant call panties pants LOL and for you poop guy go slit your own own throat!

]]> Comment on To chain or not to chain by dwkentsr http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=192&cpage=1#comment-5 dwkentsr Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:25 +0000 http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=192#comment-5 Gary, I concur with your analysis and conclusions. I found a lcoal supplier for 5/8 inch Gleistein 8 plait polyester that should minimize the bungee cord springy behavior of the equivalent nylon rode. I bought a bronze stem head anchor roller with roller extensions to allow stowage of a Rocna. It is way too heavy and puts the bowsprit traveller out of reach. You have a stemhead anchor roller. Any photos on your site? Is it custom built? Where can I buy one? Thanks David Kent BCC Rose Gary,
I concur with your analysis and conclusions. I found a lcoal supplier for 5/8 inch Gleistein 8 plait polyester that should minimize the bungee cord springy behavior of the equivalent nylon rode.

I bought a bronze stem head anchor roller with roller extensions to allow stowage of a Rocna. It is way too heavy and puts the bowsprit traveller out of reach. You have a stemhead anchor roller. Any photos on your site? Is it custom built? Where can I buy one?
Thanks
David Kent
BCC Rose

]]> Comment on Shanti smiles by Adventure http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=181&cpage=1#comment-4 Adventure Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:43:02 +0000 http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=181#comment-4 Hi Gary, Well done ! I've been following your adventures with Dynex Dux, and it looks very good to me. The difficulties with measurement are a bit off-putting though. Looking forward to hearing how the first sails go. Good luck, Mike. BCC Adventure. Hi Gary,
Well done !
I’ve been following your adventures with Dynex Dux, and it looks very good to me.
The difficulties with measurement are a bit off-putting though.

Looking forward to hearing how the first sails go.

Good luck,
Mike.
BCC Adventure.

]]> Comment on Race results and observations by Gary Felton http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=141&cpage=1#comment-3 Gary Felton Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:59:40 +0000 http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=141#comment-3 Joel, First let me say that I loved my Falmouth Cutter. She was a great boat! You will not be disappointed with her. I went to Rogue Wave and took at look at her specs/photos. Here are some of my initial impressions. 1) I don't believe she was built by Sam L. Morse. The first ones built were by North Sea Yachts. They used a fiberglass liner in the interior as the base for the interior construction, which I see in the photos. This is not a bad thing as they did a good job also. Maybe Sam built the first few boats using that liner, I don't remember, but I don't think so. Maybe an additional negotiating point. Look in the chain pipes up forward and see how thick the deck section is there. My SLM was about 2 inches thick to make a solid base for the bits. 2) I also don't think that is a yanmar 2GM engine. looks like a 1GM. which is not a bad thing. A 2GM would be to much engine for the Falmouth. I could push my Falmouth at 5kts with a 5HP outboard. It lists a Max prop which is a very good thing. 3) The listing includes some very expensive upgrades if it is correct. Fairly new sails, bronze chain plates, Profurl furlers, GPS chart plotter, etc. So over the last three years including all the bright work refinished I can easily imagine 30K being spent, depending on when some of this equipment was purchased. 4) Broker listings and surveys are just starting points. A lot depends on what you consider important. When I purchased Shanti the survey listed things that didn't end up being necessary, and it also missed some things. Even if you purchased a "perfectly" maintained boat, there will always be things you want to change or improve. 5) Just saw your post on the Falmouth forum. Sounds to me like the owner was not real knowledgeable re: maintenance. Things like rudder delaminating could be an easy repair or mean a rudder replacement. My rudder on Angelsea delaminated a bit. But I just drilled a hole in the bottom, let the water drain out. Rebedded all the hardware, Striped off the delimated section, and re-fiberglassed it. It was a bit of a job, but not huge. It all depends on how bad the "delamination" is. The trans is another matter. But what is required to fix it...just a seal, or Does the engine need to be pulled? So, what do I think? Take in to consideration what it would cost to buy a less expensive Falmouth (if you could find one), outfit it with all the gear that is listed in the ad. Fix all the problems the cheaper Falmouth would also have. Then make your decision as to how good of a deal it is. Remember we are talking boats that are 20-30 years old, and they will have maintenance issues, no matter how good a boat wife the owner is. But I would wave the survey in there face and squeeze out the best deal (it is a BUYERS market right now), as it was not a very accurate description of the boat. I worked for a yacht owner once who considered new varnish and cushions a "refit". So take a look at her, bitch alot and make a deal. Even with the issues you mention it sounds like a reasonable price. But do use the survey to make the best deal you can. I would want a price reduction based on repairs to make her "seaworthy". Good luck! Gary Joel,
First let me say that I loved my Falmouth Cutter. She was a great boat! You will not be disappointed with her.

I went to Rogue Wave and took at look at her specs/photos. Here are some of my initial impressions.

1) I don’t believe she was built by Sam L. Morse. The first ones built were by North Sea Yachts. They used a fiberglass liner in the interior as the base for the interior construction, which I see in the photos. This is not a bad thing as they did a good job also. Maybe Sam built the first few boats using that liner, I don’t remember, but I don’t think so. Maybe an additional negotiating point. Look in the chain pipes up forward and see how thick the deck section is there. My SLM was about 2 inches thick to make a solid base for the bits.

2) I also don’t think that is a yanmar 2GM engine. looks like a 1GM. which is not a bad thing. A 2GM would be to much engine for the Falmouth. I could push my Falmouth at 5kts with a 5HP outboard. It lists a Max prop which is a very good thing.

3) The listing includes some very expensive upgrades if it is correct. Fairly new sails, bronze chain plates, Profurl furlers, GPS chart plotter, etc. So over the last three years including all the bright work refinished I can easily imagine 30K being spent, depending on when some of this equipment was purchased.

4) Broker listings and surveys are just starting points. A lot depends on what you consider important. When I purchased Shanti the survey listed things that didn’t end up being necessary, and it also missed some things. Even if you purchased a “perfectly” maintained boat, there will always be things you want to change or improve.

5) Just saw your post on the Falmouth forum. Sounds to me like the owner was not real knowledgeable re: maintenance. Things like rudder delaminating could be an easy repair or mean a rudder replacement. My rudder on Angelsea delaminated a bit. But I just drilled a hole in the bottom, let the water drain out. Rebedded all the hardware, Striped off the delimated section, and re-fiberglassed it. It was a bit of a job, but not huge. It all depends on how bad the “delamination” is. The trans is another matter. But what is required to fix it…just a seal, or Does the engine need to be pulled?

So, what do I think? Take in to consideration what it would cost to buy a less expensive Falmouth (if you could find one), outfit it with all the gear that is listed in the ad. Fix all the problems the cheaper Falmouth would also have. Then make your decision as to how good of a deal it is. Remember we are talking boats that are 20-30 years old, and they will have maintenance issues, no matter how good a boat wife the owner is.

But I would wave the survey in there face and squeeze out the best deal (it is a BUYERS market right now), as it was not a very accurate description of the boat.

I worked for a yacht owner once who considered new varnish and cushions a “refit”.

So take a look at her, bitch alot and make a deal. Even with the issues you mention it sounds like a reasonable price. But do use the survey to make the best deal you can. I would want a price reduction based on repairs to make her “seaworthy”.

Good luck!
Gary

]]> Comment on Race results and observations by Joel http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=141&cpage=1#comment-2 Joel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:26:38 +0000 http://www.garyfelton.com/shanti/?p=141#comment-2 Gary, Just found your blog yesterday. Beautiful BCC and the work you have done on/for it is dead on. I am setting "sail" to Annapolis Monday 11/02/09 to finalize the purchase of SLM FC-22 Hull #3 Jolly Dolphin. Finalizing meaning deciding if she is close to what the broker claimed. She has a lot of minor issued that did not live up to the brokers "Completely and perfectly restored" claims. Survey for a novice was bleak with at least 5 pages of Repairs and Corrections. Don't think the owner will come down from his $55K price tag, despite the needs in electrical, plumbing. Hull is a rock with bronze hard wear and exterior is, as the dealer said mint, except the lights. I know this blog is about Shanti but I could use some advice from an old salt. Should I go the $55 if she "feels right" when I take a look at her. I ask this because you spent so much time on your FC and I am a novice to "big" boats, though I know FC and BCC are not known as big boats. But first major (over $10K) on a boat for me. I will use her 6-weeks in the winter and 2 months in the summer for the next 3-4 years till I retire. I don't ask as whether it is a good price or not as that is tough for you to say, but do you feel the FC is everything folks make it to be? AND with a traditional layout, V-birth and 2 1/4 did you find it livable at least for short periods as I described. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Dealers have pissed me off and not been up front with me do part of me says screw them and to walk away, but then again you know how a pretty lady can tug at your heart. I'm 57 soon 58 use to getting by with little comfort. My only real rules about comfort is related to sleep: Need to be dry, keep the bugs out and a soft mattress. The rest of the amenities are not that big of a deal. I can get buy with little and enjoy myself. So any advice for buying a FC-22. If you have a chance...I will decide on buy her or not by 11/4 so if you have time..... Joel Williams jhwilli@msn.com Peace and fair sees, Joel Gary,
Just found your blog yesterday. Beautiful BCC and the work you have done on/for it is dead on. I am setting “sail” to Annapolis Monday 11/02/09 to finalize the purchase of SLM FC-22 Hull #3 Jolly Dolphin. Finalizing meaning deciding if she is close to what the broker claimed. She has a lot of minor issued that did not live up to the brokers “Completely and perfectly restored” claims. Survey for a novice was bleak with at least 5 pages of Repairs and Corrections. Don’t think the owner will come down from his $55K price tag, despite the needs in electrical, plumbing. Hull is a rock with bronze hard wear and exterior is, as the dealer said mint, except the lights.

I know this blog is about Shanti but I could use some advice from an old salt. Should I go the $55 if she “feels right” when I take a look at her. I ask this because you spent so much time on your FC and I am a novice to “big” boats, though I know FC and BCC are not known as big boats. But first major (over $10K) on a boat for me. I will use her 6-weeks in the winter and 2 months in the summer for the next 3-4 years till I retire.

I don’t ask as whether it is a good price or not as that is tough for you to say, but do you feel the FC is everything folks make it to be? AND with a traditional layout, V-birth and 2 1/4 did you find it livable at least for short periods as I described. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Dealers have pissed me off and not been up front with me do part of me says screw them and to walk away, but then again you know how a pretty lady can tug at your heart.

I’m 57 soon 58 use to getting by with little comfort. My only real rules about comfort is related to sleep: Need to be dry, keep the bugs out and a soft mattress. The rest of the amenities are not that big of a deal. I can get buy with little and enjoy myself. So any advice for buying a FC-22. If you have a chance…I will decide on buy her or not by 11/4 so if you have time…..

Joel Williams
jhwilli@msn.com

Peace and fair sees,
Joel

]]>